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draugr · Apr 21, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Roughly 85%.

85% of all dmg? or armor considering dmg? I find that most mob groups in pve are doing an awful lot of armor ignoring dmg these days and degen, together with other hexing nastiness. The mob laying down isn't applying any damage or degen or hexing anyone, Really melee heavy areas I imagine SY really shines.

Lively discussion and sure the OP has lots of different POV to consider in making his choice. Warriors definitely are better looking. Nothing looks sillier than a sin with an axe and shield, so will grant that in aesthetics, warr wins hands down. In flexibility, utility and effectiveness, though if you have to choose between two profs, take the one with 4 pip nrg regen. Also, because crit strikes is much > strength as a primary, sin wins.

draugr · Apr 21, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Tyla

It's not the effect that makes Strength good, it's the skills, and I think Strength is the most balanced thing in Guild Wars altogether.

Lot's of veiled and not so veiled flaming in this thread and these boards generally. "Terrible at pve?" "bad, stupid or both of them?" can we dispense with this? Why take things to a personal level (other than you have nothing substantively maybe? hehe)

Again, I wrote that the elites in strength could use a boost in addition to the basic armor penetration, the on topic argument being that critical strikes kills str as a primary. I stand by that.

Tyla · Apr 21, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

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Originally Posted by draugr

85% of all dmg? or armor considering dmg? I find that most mob groups in pve are doing an awful lot of armor ignoring dmg these days and degen, together with other hexing nastiness. The mob laying down isn't applying any damage or degen or hexing anyone, Really melee heavy areas I imagine SY really shines.

I always run Survivor Insignias aswell.
Protection from both is great.

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Lively discussion and sure the OP has lots of different POV to consider in making his choice. Warriors definitely are better looking. Nothing looks sillier than a sin with an axe and shield, so will grant that in aesthetics, warr wins hands down. In flexibility, utility and effectiveness, though if you have to choose between two profs, take the one with 4 pip nrg regen. Also, because crit strikes is much > strength as a primary, sin wins.

I'll say it again -- It's not the inherant effect, it's the skills.
You're also forgetting key things, such as Stonefist Insignias, higher inherant armour and Flail is basically an even less unstrippable version of Crit Agility on a Warrior.

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Lot's of veiled and not so veiled flaming in this thread and these boards generally. "Terrible at pve?" "bad, stupid or both of them?" can we dispense with this? Why take things to a personal level (other than you have nothing substantively maybe? hehe)

Well, display some common knowledge about Warriors.
Look at the skills in Strength.

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Again, I wrote that the elites in strength could use a boost in addition to the basic armor penetration, the on topic argument being that critical strikes kills str as a primary. I stand by that.

Strength elites are often bad. I randomly see a Scythe Warrior flying around this forum, but apart from that through simulated IAS, no.

Your elite, if using a serious build, should be of your weapon mastery.

RavagerOfDreams · Apr 21, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

in pve sins and wars are about equal at what they do
they can both output SY! at a fairly rapid rate (though the warrior can do it faster but at a sacrificed damage rate which a ms sin has no lack of)

however in the end it comes down to exactly which you prefer

i chose to play sin when factions came out and i was hooked right away
for you though you could like warriors more then sins as most do

strictly pve speaking they are fairly equal

hope it helps instead of the pointless arguing going on in this thread as to which prof is better when its all a matter of opinion

Magikarp · Apr 21, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

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Originally Posted by Tyla

I always run Survivor Insignias aswell.
Protection from both is great.

I'll say it again -- It's not the inherant effect, it's the skills.
You're also forgetting key things, such as Stonefist Insignias, higher inherant armour and Flail is basically an even less unstrippable version of Crit Agility on a Warrior.

Well, display some common knowledge about Warriors.
Look at the skills in Strength.

Strength elites are often bad. I randomly see a Scythe Warrior flying around this forum, but apart from that through simulated IAS, no.

Your elite, if using a serious build, should be of your weapon mastery.

agreed with just about everything in this post, although while you're correct about CA being stripped, its low cost, and manages itself, so i think unless its just a bad area for enchantments, your point is kinda null. other than that though, i agree.

but...

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

in pve sins and wars are about equal at what they do
they can both output SY! at a fairly rapid rate (though the warrior can do it faster but at a sacrificed damage rate which a ms sin has no lack of)

however in the end it comes down to exactly which you prefer

i chose to play sin when factions came out and i was hooked right away
for you though you could like warriors more then sins as most do

strictly pve speaking they are fairly equal

hope it helps instead of the pointless arguing going on in this thread as to which prof is better when its all a matter of opinion

i agree with this more

llsektorll · Apr 21, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

i just like the versatility of play styles as a assassin than running axe/sword/hammer warrior in pve.... tanking gets boring after a while... mapping should be a breeze if warrior is your main cuz you can shadow form run just about every area...

angmar_nite · Apr 21, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

My war doesn't tank. et tu?

Tyla · Apr 21, 2008, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

i just like the versatility of play styles as a assassin than running axe/sword/hammer warrior in pve.... tanking gets boring after a while... mapping should be a breeze if warrior is your main cuz you can shadow form run just about every area...

Question -- Why are you tanking? Warriors should deal damage.

Eru Valenehtar · Apr 22, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

I like assassin better, personally.

Earth · Apr 22, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

I think you have enough opinions now. In the end, it all comes down to what you prefer

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If you guys want to continue this whole Sin vs Warrior debate, take it to Campfire.

Closed.

Apr 21, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#84
RavagerOfDreams Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: somewhere over the rainbow.... Profession: A/	in pve sins and wars are about equal at what they do they can both output SY! at a fairly rapid rate (though the warrior can do it faster but at a sacrificed damage rate which a ms sin has no lack of) however in the end it comes down to exactly which you prefer i chose to play sin when factions came out and i was hooked right away for you though you could like warriors more then sins as most do strictly pve speaking they are fairly equal hope it helps instead of the pointless arguing going on in this thread as to which prof is better when its all a matter of opinion

Apr 21, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59	#86
llsektorll Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Profession: R/	i just like the versatility of play styles as a assassin than running axe/sword/hammer warrior in pve.... tanking gets boring after a while... mapping should be a breeze if warrior is your main cuz you can shadow form run just about every area...

Apr 21, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01	#87
angmar_nite Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: [SNOW] of [YUM] Profession: E/	My war doesn't tank. et tu?

Apr 22, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46	#89
Eru Valenehtar Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Jersey, USA Guild: The Moon's Rebirth [Luna] Profession: Mo/	I like assassin better, personally.

Apr 22, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#90
Earth Always Outnumbered Join Date: Jul 2006	I think you have enough opinions now. In the end, it all comes down to what you prefer . If you guys want to continue this whole Sin vs Warrior debate, take it to Campfire. Closed.